Exclusive Interview With Mistress Selene Pain: Forced-Bi.com

We’re joined today by intriguing and original Mistress Selene Pain.

Hello and welcome!

To start, how do your clients and followers address you?

“Mistress Selene Pain.”

Do you think of yourself as an “Alpha,” “Brat,” “Domme,” “Goddess,” “Mean Girl,” “Mistress,” “Princess,” “Sadist,” “Queen,” etc.?

“Domina, Mistress/Maîtresse, Goddess.”

Very cool.

Do you have any special reason(s) for this preference?

“They are powerful, and I like hearing them.”

Ha; fair enough! You come across as powerful.

Okay, so…as Domina, Maîtresse, and so on… Is Forced-Bi A.) a lifestyle for you? Is it B.) role play? C.) Fun? Do you see yourself D.) as social activist or maybe E.) engaging in some sort of spiritual exercise?

“B., C., D., E. I do it because I like doing it; because it makes me grow and because it helps me reach a certain balance in my life.”

That’s an interesting combination.

All right, along the other line, there are a number of words that sometimes describe the people who seek out the services of someone like you. What word do you prefer for these kinds of people? “Betas,” “Losers,” “Masochists,” “Slaves,” “Subs,” etc.

“I like them all. It depends on who’s in front of me and how he or she inspires me!”

“Inspires”? You mean… it depends on what kind of person the submissive is?

“Yes. The word I will choose… it has to fit with the person in front of me. ‘Sub’ is the most common one I use. ‘Beta’ and ‘sissy’ are common too.”

I suppose that there’s a commonality in the kinds of people who approach you.

How long have you been doing this online?

“Online… I will say 2013. I’ve been a lot more active since 2018. But I’ve been doing Domination since 2012.”

Do you also have a “dungeon,” studio, or other space for face-to-face, in-person, or real-time meets?

“Yes, I work at 2 dungeons in Montreal. Real-time session are my favorites.”

To me, that’s the hottest.

How much of your energy and time does this activity take up?

“I have a different [day] job, but I will say that every night, and all weekend, and in any spare time, I work on different ideas that I have to put myself on the map.”

I like that! Well, we’re happy to be talking to you.

So, would you say that you are satisfied with your current level of involvement? It sounds like you want a whole lot more!

“Yeah. I wish I had more time to put on Domination and everything around it.”

Do you feel comfortable sharing anything else about yourself, on either personal or professional levels? E.g., How old are you? Are you in a relationship? (Conventional? Alternative/BDSM?) What is your sexual orientation? Etc.

“I’m almost 38 years old (16 June 1981). I’m French, but I speak English. I like to play with anybody: girls, boys, couples…

“I like everything that is out of the ordinary. I’ve been attracted to it all my life. We have a life to live. Might as well make it a great one. A great adventure. …

“I love being in charge and to accept or refuse anybody. I love to dress up for session. …I adore putting my stocking on, my corset, my high heels, make up and everything in between to get me going.

“…I love the feeling of Empowerment when I am getting ready for a session. …I like to feel like a femme fatale. I love to dictate orders to my armies of subs. I love the creativity it takes to do a 4-hour session with a sub who only like ass slapping. I’m proud of being a Pro-Domina.”

Let me ask you about the concept of “forced bi,” generally.

On the face of it, the “forced-bi fetish” has two components: (1) “force” and (2) “bisexuality.” Let’s handle both, but in reverse order.

Do you think that true “bisexuality” – where a person is more of less equally attracted to females and males (but see a further question about problems with so-called “binarism”) – is possible?

“Well, yes, I think it [a person’s orientation] can change thru time too. And I think it has lots of possibilities. Guys love their penises! If you take out the guilt of being attracted to it on others, I think lots of guy would want to see, touch, and experience with other guys.

“I’m only there to pretend to ‘force’ them to do so. By being forced, they let themselves explore without guilt. Every sub that comes to me for ‘forced-bi,’ they want different things: Some want me to tell them how they love penis. Some want to be that little girl who gets fucked. Some want to be in a gangbang where all those big, muscular men are getting excited by cumming all over them.

“You can have fantasy without wanting to go further. And you got some who, after you open that door (didn’t even try to do a word game here!!! 😉 ) they realize what they were missing all their lives.

“I think it’s different for everybody. That’s why, as a Pro-Domme, you need to have good intuition to be able to detect the unspoken. Lots of them are lost with their feelings. They don’t know why they feel that way and some are ashamed of themselves. I think it’s the job of the Domina to help them play with it and help them discover the true meaning of the fantasy. And of course, have fun with it. Fuck feeling guilty about it, ENJOY!!!!!”

Which of the following, if any, do you think of the Forced-Bi fetish as? Lifestyle, role play, a power trip, a game, just a bit of fun, a pastime, a trap? Any of these?

“It’s a fun fetish to play with. Every sub comes with a ‘vibe’ and their fetishes. I love to do clips of forced bi.

“I see it as a role play for sure but on the other end, I never know right away how the other person is feeling about it. Is he just wanting to play with it? Is it a serious thing? Is he experienced with that fetish?

“For me, it’s all about being the best at what I do. I’m a Pro-Domme. I want to make you sooooo excited, that you will beg me for more. I take that shit seriously. I need to create a parallel universe where he can be that sissy who enjoys having big cock all over him. I need to make him able to jump in that parallel universe without knowing it.”

There are actually a few names for this fetish. “Coerced bi,” “coerced gay,” “encouraged,” “enforced,” “forced,” etc., etc. What do you call it?

“‘Forced bi’ is the one I use the most. It’s pretty clear what’s inside the clips if you write that down in the title.”

Ha! I imagine you’re right!

“For me, I see a difference between forced bi and coerced gay.”

Okay. That’s interesting! Tell me a bit more about that. What distinction do you draw?

“The difference is, with forced bi, I will include myself in it. Watching, I will be the one who makes that little party happen; I will get aroused by it. It’s all about me getting aroused by him getting forced into bi. He will do it because Mistress want it. And he wants Mistress to be excited by it.

“And with coerced gay, it’s all about him getting fucked. It’s about him getting jumped by men, and him enjoying it. There is no me in the picture. Except my voice telling the story.”

So, there’s a version of this that Mistress-centered, and a version that’s sub-centered? Okay. I can see it. Maybe I would disagree about the names. But, I see the distinction.

Who’s the “target,” here? Men only, or women too?

I mean, in practice, “forced bi” seems most often to apply to men: guy-on-guy sex. But, in principle, why couldn’t it also apply to girl-on-girl sex as well?

For you: Is it for males? Females? Both?

“It can be for women too, for sure.

“But me, I’ve been doing forced bi with men only. It’s all about being forced to do sexual services. To take it and give it if you’ve been ordered to do so.

“So, it can be for any sex. But I think it’s more of a guy thing because it’s taboo. Girls can kiss and caress each other; it’s accepted. But If you try to play with the dick of your co-workers, …hahaha! It probably won’t pass.

“But, in this fantasy, you can do everything you dream about. It’s all about dicks and holes. It’s like the extension of their own dick. They just go nuts (!) when you talk about a bunch of dicks and holes getting fucked and going wild. I almost do nothing; they are more than ready when I start the fantasy.

“The ones that are not willing at first, I don’t think it’s because they don’t want to. I think they are just brainwashed from society that guys on guys is bad. But if you can take that shit out of their brains, it will work like a charm.”

You’ve given this a fair amount of thought. I appreciate that.

Let’s go further, then. “Forced-bi” sex also involves force – whatever that means. So, the question is: Well… what does it mean?

Let me give you some options. Coercion, commandment, encouragement, enticement, inducement, instruction, permission, persuasion, provocation, seduction. None of the above? Lol.

“All of them! Every sub – and every session – is different.

“The last sub I did, he wanted to see penises – the penises of all the guys he could see. He couldn’t stop saying that he was not gay!

“So, I gave him the permission to let himself go with the flow.

“A hole is a hole; a mouth is a mouth. They go wild about being ‘forced.’ It doesn’t matter anymore who the fuck has the penis, if it’s a strap-on or a guy. If they come see me – and pay! – it’s not really ‘forced’ when you think about it 😉 . They are asking for it. Some more subtle than others.”

All right. But…What do you think is actually going on with “forced bi”? Does a guy change his sexual orientation?

“Like I said earlier, it is different for all subs. For some it’s a fantasy and nothing more. For others, it’s taboo, and they cannot let themselves do it in the real life. Some are still questioning themselves; others are thinking about going further. It’s a very personal thing. Some just want to try different things.

“But… after doing it to the same sub over and over, I believe that I can make him love something that he would of never thought of doing.”

Programming is a thing, you think? Interesting.

What about roles? Is it possible for a guy to be a “switch” or “versatile”?

“My subs will do as I say.”

I believe you!

“And if I told them to be the whore of the party, they will get fucked in every hole possible.

“But, in another scenario, if I get a client that wants to be fucked like a little slut, I can order my sub to come and fuck my little slut wild.

“I think a real sub who wants to please his Mistress will do as she asks him to do… and will enjoy every second of it.”

Some women profess to enjoy guy-on-guy sex. Do you like it? And, if you do… how do you like it? For example, do you imagine that it is a similar feeling to what guys might like about watching two women kiss and lick each other? Do you just like the spectacle? Is it a power trip for you? About role reversal? Etc. Do any of these resonate with you?

“I enjoy controlling the situation, and I like playing God… making them do as I please – and the way I want. For me, it’s more of a Dominant feeling: making that little sub do as I said – and saying ‘thanks!’ on top of that. I like to push their limits too.”

A few women claim to want to date bisexual guys, participate in threesomes with them, etc. Others seem to think that once a guy tries guy-on-guy sex, he’s less desirable to women). This may be a difference of opinion between more dominant and more submissive women. What do you think?

“When I dress up my subs as little whores and make them get spitroasted, I don’t find that attractive. It’s pure dominance.

“At the same time, it’s about them being aroused and having the time of their lives.

“My pet subs are toys to me. They will never have the chance to arouse me. I play with them, and I do as I want with them.

“In my personal sex life, I need an Alpha – a masculine guy. I need him stronger, taller, …more everything than me. And that’s why I’m single for so long, lol.”

Ha!

Is the forced-bi fetish “healthy” or “unhealthy”?

“It always depends on how you do it.”

I appreciate you saying that. Tell me more about this. What different ways are there to do it?

“First, you have to make sure your subs don’t take health risks.”

Okay, I see what you mean. I’ll ask you more about that in a minute.

What I have in mind here is something more like is forced bi positive and helpful for a male sub’s flourishing, or is it negative and unhelpful?

“Some of my subs have it already written in their destiny. I just help them getting there and fulfilling their dreams. Some other subs… it’s just a part of their sexuality. I am showing them a whole other world that they didn’t even know existed.”

Okay. Why is it healthy, do you think?

“Because it’s their real self. Breaking the taboos is always good. If they enjoy it and it doesn’t hurt anybody, then everything is okay!”

Fair enough! Do you think of any of this is religious or spiritual terms?

“I don’t care about that.”

Right on.

Here’s a question about language, then. Nowadays, some people are opposed to the use of so-called “binary language” – e.g., thinking in terms of “feminine” versus “masculine,” etc. – when it comes to John Money’s concept of “gender” and sexuality. But forced bi, arguably, has a kind of “bi-narism” built into its name. Do you see this as a problem for the “forced-bi” fetish?

“For now, no. I think the subs who want to experience forced bi are usually in need of identifying with a gender. They want to be sissies.”

You mean the forced-bi fetish works only when there is a contrast? There has to be something to invert?

It’s like: You have a “regular,” “vanilla” way of seeing things and behaving and then you turn it topsy-turvy? I think I follow you.

Let’s talk activities. What do you like ordering or watching?

“I like cum eating: eating their own cum by masturbation, by cumming inside a melon, or being a sex slave – the toy of the evening!!!”

Cumming in a melon? Wow! That’s a new one by me, lol. And I thought I had seen it all!

Back to roles, again, for a moment. I think you hinted at this earlier. But, I’ll ask you specifically, now – since it’s the next question! Which do you prefer, having guys in dedicated roles, or having both guys being plastic enough to perform in any role you want?

“I don’t have preference. I like to play with my toys (subs) and make them do anything I want, when I want.”

I figured you’d say that!

Are you aroused by forced bi, or just amused by it?

“It amuses me. I love to make subs do what I want and see in their faces that they are totally aroused.”

Interesting. The range of answers on that question fascinates me.

Here’s another question that has wide variation. Do you think that a guy can “just try” sucking cock or getting assfucked and then quit? Or, if he tries it, will he get hooked on it?

“The fact that he wants to try it, it’s because he thought of it long enough. When you go to a Pro-Domme to get assfucked, it’s rare that you stop after that.

“Some just want to try it. But, usually, I start ass training them and they want more! I try to make them push their limits little by little.”

Now you make an excellent point, there. And it’s worth underscoring, I think.

We’re talking more or less about guys who approach you for this. So, that kind of guy – we imagine, anyway – has thought about it for a while. It’s not just a fleeting thought.

So, for that sort of guy, he’s serious. Interesting. Great point.

What about for you? What are you interested in doing? Fantasy only? Encouragement for real encounters?

“It depends on who’s in front of me. Step 2 is different for every subs.”

“Step 2”? Meaning… what happens after the fantasy is aired? Gotcha.

And you already said that you like pushing limits. So… readers can use their imaginations, here!

How “involved” do you like to be? A. Tell them what to do and assume they do it? B. Tell them to do something and demand photographic or video-graphic evidence? C. Watch it unfold over real-time via webcam/livestream? Or… D. actually direct and watch yourself in person?

“Answer: D., for the most part. But when I do webcam, I ask them to bring me proofs.”

Let’s say something about your limits. Basically, well… do you have any? So… A. No limits; B. You have limits, but subs don’t; C. Both you and the subs have limits; D. Other, lol.

“Answer: C.”

Right on.

How do you feel about guys having gay sex without condoms (i.e., “barebacking”)?

“Because some subs have no clue about all the diseases they can get, I take it as my responsibility to inform them on how to protect themselves. From there, it’s their choice. Some of my subs have fetish about taking risk. So, I think they are enough old to make their own decision when it comes to this.”

Okay. I get you.

Relatedly, some Mistresses insist on safety because Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) in a sub are completely undesirable. Others don’t care either way. Some even profess to find it a turn on to see a guy engage in risky gay sex. How do you feel about STDs and STD risk?

“I don’t have sex with my subs, and I don’t take risks. So, for me, I don’t mind. But, for them, they just need to be informed of every risk they are willing to take and from there, it’s their decision.”

It’s not your health, basically? Roger that.

How do you feel about married men?

“I don’t talk about that with them except if they bring it up. The only thing that pisses me off is when a sub is taking some risk and his or her partner doesn’t have a clue of what his partner is putting him into.

“You want to take risk, I don’t care. But don’t put at risk someone who doesn’t want to.”

Or someone who has no idea what’s going on. I get it.

How do you feel about amyl-nitrite inhalers (“poppers”)?

“If they like it, it’s ok with me. I just need to make sure that the air is circulating.”

How do you feel about guys really getting addicted to gay sex?

“That’s fine with me. I like to turn little sissies into mindless cockwhores.”

That paints quite a picture! Lol.

This has been great. Just a few final odds and ends (no pun intended).

Do you have any other fetishes or activities that you like to participate in, direct, or instruct?

“I got a strong body, so people choose me a lot for trampling and wrestling. I love ass worship – when I sit on their face and make them suffocate. I love CBT,[1] I’m really good with physical pain. And I like to give them tasks to execute.”

That all sounds hot. And it does look like you have a powerful body!

So, for those who don’t already know: how can fans and other interested persons check out your work?

“www.dominatrixselenepain.com

“Twitter: @MaitresseSelene

“Instagram: maitresseselenedominatrice

“Onlyfans: https://onlyfans.com/maitresseselene

“Iwantclips: https://iwantclips.com/store/494402/Mistress-Selene

“My wish list: https://www.deliverycode.com/wishlist/31897”

That’s fantastic! (In the colloquial sense, of course!)

Thank you so much for being with us today, Mistress Selene! You’ve got a decidedly philosophical turn of mind. I have appreciated your perspectives!

From all of us here at Forced-Bi.com, we wish you increased success in your endeavors. And I hope that you can get to the point you want to be at! Take care.

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Notes:

[1] CBT = Cock-and-ball “torture.”