Hello! Thank you so much for being with us!
First of all, please let the audience know, what name do you go by?
“Amelia Divine, a.k.a., The Sissy Whisperer. I go by ‘Ms. Amelia’ or ‘Ms. Divine.’”
I always enjoy some of the creative neologisms that intelligent coerced-bi practitioners come up with!
“Sissy whisperer” is one of the best I’ve come across – absolutely delicious!
So, besides “Ms.,” are there any other titles that you use? “Goddess,” “Mistress,” etc.?
“I’m not too keen on ‘Goddess,’ ‘Mistress,’ ‘Lady,’ or anything like that. I’m Southern, and manners are very important.
“In the South, it’s Ms. and Ma’am… no exceptions.”
Ah! I won’t gainsay that at all – so, yes, ma’am!
How do you see yourself, I mean… as a fetishist, in general?
“It’s certainly a lifestyle; this is who I am, pretty much all the time.
“But there’s also a bit of social activism.”
Advancing feminism? That sort of thing?
Let me ask this: How do you think about the people who approach you? For instance, what label – or labels – do you apply to them? “Slaves”? “Sluts”? Subs”? And that’s just the “s”-words!
“Princesses.”
No kidding? Okay!
“But… my sissies have to earn that title.”
That sounds like an interesting process.
“There is a difference between ‘betas’ and ‘sissies.’ Betas, to me at least, are just worthless men who can’t do anything without being told. They really aspire to nothing. They are happy being slaves and being ignored or not acknowledged – whenever.
“A sissy, on the other hand, knows he is worthless as a man and that he will never be a woman. So, every moment, they are doing anything they can to be useful to an Alpha (Alpha Male or Alpha Female). This involves waxing, dressing as a sissy, chastity, milking, becoming a housemaid – anything they can do to make themselves useful.”
Intriguing taxonomy.
I take it that this categorization has been developed over some period of time. How did you actually get into – well… as this?
“Oh, lord. Okay.”
Ha! Here we go?
“I first got a taste of ‘sissification,’ and fetishes as a whole, when I modeled chainmail for a friend of a friend at a fetish convention here in Atlanta.”
This interview is full of “firsts” for me! You modeled chainmail? All right.
“Today they call it ‘Frolicon,’ but – a hundred years ago – it was just a small little convention.
“I was 21 years old then, and just discovering myself. But that convention really changed my outlook on sex and sexuality. I saw slaves with their Dommes, Drag Queens, men in chastity, men in panties and lingerie. It was wild.
“Fast forward ten years. I started diving into the world of phone sex. I started as just a quick suck-and-fuck submissive, but it wasn’t long till I took my first call from a panty-wearing sissy who wanted to suck cock for me.
“It was all downhill from there.”
Haha! Indeed!
“I love the fetish community, LGBTQ+ community, Drag community, and the like. It’s a running joke that I’m a Drag Queen stuck in a woman’s body.”
That paints quite a picture!
“The other reason I love sissies so much is that I come across a lot of men who are gay, but hiding it.”
So, you see what you do, partially, as …therapeutic?
“I’m able to give them an outlet to explore being the gay, effeminate princess they truly are. I’ve helped so many men come out of the closet, and they are now living their best lives!”
Fascinating!
Now, when you meet this princesses-to-be, do you mean via telephone or webcam? Or do you also have a “dungeon” or other space for face-to-face, in-person, or real-time meets?
“Not at the moment. Life happens…”
Agreed.
“…and I’ve been online since 2006, raising my family and adulting.
“I do want to begin live sessions. There is a place out here in Atlanta, the Atlanta Sissy Training Academy (through the Atlanta Dungeon), that I would love to start working though.
“So, I guess you can say that’s my five-year plan.”
Fair enough. You have to have goals!
What’s your main ambition? I mean, are you aiming to make money, or derive pleasure – or both?
“Both. This is my career.
“I’m not for ‘draining men’s wallets.’ But, yes, I would like to make a comfortable living in my career.”
Right on.
How much of your energy and time does this take up? I take it that it isn’t just a hobby, then.
“As I said, this is my career. So, it takes up a lot of my time.”
You’re “good” with that?
“I don’t mind. I love it. But, yes, it takes up a lot of my time.
“I’m a businesswoman. So, if it didn’t take up my time, then I’m not running my business correctly. Am I?”
You can’t delegate everything.
On a personal level, do you feel comfortable sharing anything else?
“Forty-five years old; happily married; 2.5 grown kids; four cats; two dogs; huge baseball fan; lover of music; former ballet dancer; a follower of the Pagan Path for over twenty-five years… I’m an open book.”
2.5? Lol!
“Most of the time, my fans are curious if my husband is a sissy, or submissive, or whatnot.
“No, he’s not.
“In fact, our married life is separate from my professional life as a Sissy Domme.”
I can see how that question would be of interest to your clientele.
From a philosophical-sexological perspective, so you think that true “bisexuality” – where a person is more or less equally attracted to females and males is possible?
“Personally, I believe everyone is bisexual, period.
“Men will take a ‘dick sucking’ no matter who is doing it. And women are emotional creatures; we will gravitate to other women easily.
“What I think stops most from evolving in their natural bi curiosities, is the community, family, friends, and all that surrounds us. For example, my kids were raised in the Pagan community, where gay, straight, trans, poly, swingers, crossdressers – everything under the sun – was a norm for them.
“When my oldest ‘came out’ it wasn’t a big deal. Telling someone you’re gay, to me, is like telling someone you’re wearing a green shirt.
“So many others are not that lucky. So, they are raised to believe that a man isn’t a man if he sucks cock. It’s sad. But, I also see it changing in the newer generations – which is fabulous!”
Okay, that’s interesting. But it makes me wonder: How do you see the forced-bi fetish, then? Is it a lifestyle? A game? An informal “therapy” session?
“Really, it depends on the person/s involved. There isn’t one – or even ten – right answer to this question.”
Now, you mentioned the ease with which both males and females might be attracted to, or participate in, oh… let’s just say: bisexuality. So, I’m wondering… do you see the Forced-Bi fetish primarily in terms of male submission, male and female submission, both, or neither?
“Mainly males… Males have a nasty little thing called pride, and forced-bi can break that pride so quickly…lol.”
Okay, then!
How hard do you have to press, so to speak? Or, to put it another way, how forced is “forced”?
Just for the record: “forced” doesn’t involve anything illegal! Call it a “term of art.”
“I’m not fond of the word ‘forced,’ because of the negative meanings associated with it. But, I don’t mind using it.
“To me, forced-bi isn’t really that much of a force. I mean, come on… these Princesses want to please. And if that requires a cock in the mouth, then… so be it.”
Not all that much force. I follow you.
So, the obvious follow-up question would be something like: What do you think is going on with “forced bi”? Does a guy actually change his sexual orientation?
“No. A fetish or kink has nothing to do with a person’s sexual orientation.
“‘Turning someone gay’ is a fantasy; it’s not realistic. You’re born gay, you’re not ‘turned’ gay.
“This is a pet peeve of mine because it takes the LGBTQ+ community and makes it a fetish. Just because a man sucks cock or takes anal does not make him gay.”
Is it possible for a guy to be a “switch” or “versatile”? (That is, to be able to take on the role of either bottom or top with more or less equal facility, if not enthusiasm.)
“Sure. But not with me.”
Ha. Fair enough.
Is the forced-bi fetish “healthy” or “unhealthy”? – psychologically speaking, I mean. Emotionally. Whatever.
“It’s not really the fetish that should be in question; it’s the relationship between the Domme and submissive.
“If it’s a Domme who doesn’t give a shit about the submissive’s feelings, health, or anything else, then I would say unhealthy. If the Domme does care about the submissive, and is careful, then it’s healthy.”
Okay. I follow you.
What else do you get into? Anything? Any other fetishes or activities that you like to direct? Or… preside over?
“I do work mainly with sissies. But ‘sissification’ is such an umbrella term.
“I do enjoy what I consider the ‘basics’: chastity, humiliation, panty worship, training, and the like. But I’m not limited to that.
“For example, I have assisted many ‘sissies’ who have been questioning their true sexuality or gender. Although I am not a medical professional, I love giving them support and many have come out and begun to live their true lives.
“Of course, there are fetishes I love to dabble in – CBT[1] being my favorite. I have a twisted side, and if a man wants to ruin his own cock, then let’s do it!”
Oh, mercy!
“In my tenure of phone sex (since 2006), I’ve been a part of so many fetishes. I’m very well versed just due to experience, so it’s rare I say ‘no.’ However, I do have one very hard ‘no’: No race play / racial slurs – ever.”
Right on.
How can fans and other interested persons check out your work?
“I have a personal website – https://ameliadivine.com/ – where I sell clips, videos, personal training and items.
“I also offer phone sessions through my site, where you can call me directly – 1-866-MY-SISSY (1-866-697-4779).
“I’m also host of The Sissy Whisperer podcast, https://www.thesissywhisperer.com/, where I upload new podcasts the third Wednesday of every month.
“For a little socializing, you can follow me on Twitter @MsMilieDivine
“But, in case you live outside the United States, you can connect with me and purchase my clips on: NiteFlirt, Clips4Sale, APClips, ManyVids, & AVNStars. Or just search Google for ‘Amelia Divine’.”
Thank you so much for all that!
My audience and I appreciate your time, today!
Good luck with your future endeavors!
(All images of Amelia Divine posted by Forced-Bi.com are Copyright 2020, Ms. Amelia Divine. They are used with permission.)
Notes:
[1] “CBT” = “cock-and-ball torture”