Hi to all out there in the Forced-Bi world! Our present interviewee is both buxom and brutally honest – and she prefers the term coerced bi (as we’ll get into, presently).
Hello!
First of all, what is your name? What do you go by?
“My name is Miss Cameron Cabrel, and I go either by ‘Miss’ or ‘Miss Cameron.’”
Right on! Welcome, Miss Cameron.
How do you think of yourself?
“I’d definitely place myself between Brat/Mean Girl and Domme/Domina. I don’t really consider myself a ‘brat,’ per say, but I’m definitely a mean girl when I’m deep into my humiliation aspects.”
Okay. That’s interesting!
“I’ve referred to myself as a Domina for most of my career, in an attempt to reflect the level of class I’d like to put forward. I don’t always have that option, due to current limitations on wardrobe and location. But I do my best to put forth that air in the way I carry myself and how I refer to myself.”
A kind of domination-with-style shtick? I follow you. That’s cool!
So, is this classy – yet commanding – Dominatrix just a persona? Or is it deeper seated than that?
“This one is a little complicated for me. I don’t necessarily see it as a ‘roleplay’ -despite not carrying this over into other areas of my life.
“I’ve always been Dominant, and I’m using that to my advantage now more than ever in my everyday life and in my work here.
“So, I’d say it’s probably a cross between a lifestyle, a bit of fun, and maybe a little roleplay – while filming things I may not have seen myself doing in the past.”
I’m intrigued that you’re speaking about your own self-exploration through this.
It’s sometimes tempting to think that envisioned scenes are designed just for a sub’s exploration and to assume that the Domme has things “all figured out.”
But, I just assumed something when I said the word “sub.”
What word – or words – do you use when talking about, well… people who come to you?
“I use ‘betas’ in reference to Cuckolds. I use ‘submissives’ for everyone else.
“You do not get the title ‘slave’ with me until you’ve been with me for longer than a year and have proven that you’re willing and enthusiastic about our arrangement and the fetishes we share together.
“It’s about connection.”
Oh, okay. Interesting. You use “slave” as a status identifier.
You have the makings of a classification system.
“Basically, ‘submissives’ are those who come play with me, but aren’t really dedicated to just me.
“‘Slaves’ are the ones I have deep connections with and come to me alone.
“‘Betas’ are those in acceptance of the fact that they are lower than a woman – and should be grateful to be kept around while said woman finds her real pleasure elsewhere.”
Now, I’m curious: What got you into the world of domination and fetishes, in general – and forced bi in particular?
“Honestly, I was absolutely sick of being a vanilla camgirl. It was too stressful. I’ve always been a ‘people pleaser’ in my personal life but trying to please men online – who all wanted something very different – was just exhausting.
“I couldn’t do the whole, ‘Man-gives-me-money-so-I-have-to-do-what-man-says’ thing anymore. I was working on my second bachelor’s degree when I found NiteFlirt.”
Oh, right on.
“Signed up, had no idea what I was doing, and got lucky enough to have all kinds of submissives teach me about all kinds of different fetishes.”
Learned as you went along.
“It started as a money grab and became one of my biggest passions.”
Kudos!
“In terms of Forced Bi, I honestly don’t remember how I found it. But as a Queer woman myself, I was incredibly curious about whether or not I could use that to convince ‘straight’ men of how great it is.
“I’m very much about the mental game, so I had to learn a lot about the mental aspect of this. I love knowing that there are men consensually partaking in an act (or even just fantasy) that they wouldn’t consent to if I wasn’t telling them that I wanted them to.”
Right; I follow you!
Playing “hot potato” with responsibility.
And how long have you been doing this online?
“Several years.
“I’ve been in the industry since I was 22. So, that’s seven years.”
But not dominant the entire time?
“A Domme since 2016.”
Remind me… do you also have a “dungeon,” studio, or other space for face-to-face, in-person, or real-time meets? Or is it all online for you?
“No.
“One of my previous submissives rented a dungeon in New York for me – for an hour! – and hired a Mistress to train me in real-time sessions.”
He was investing in your dominant development!
“He was the ‘guinea pig,’ of sorts. But that’s the farthest I’ve gone in terms of a session like that.”
Do you want to explore in-person stuff more? Or are you good where things are at?
“I’m hoping to maybe dabble around my area (when I get my own apartment) to find a domestic submissive. But, we’ll see.”
Just a moment ago, you contrasted the terms “money grab” and “passion.” Are you aiming – first and foremost – to make money? Or is there also a prominent focus on deriving pleasure? What drives you, I guess I’m wondering?
“It started as a money thing, but I’m very much invested in both now.”
Money and pleasure. Cool.
“I actually don’t like the physical act of sex; I don’t like being touched.”
Oh, no kidding?
“I only let certain people hug me. And if I’m hanging off of you, consider yourself honored.”
Wow. So …are you suggesting, maybe, that you’ve come into your own in directing other people?
“This is definitely something that makes me happy both sexually and monetarily. It’s an outlet, and I really do love that I’ve found something to let myself settle into.”
That’s fascinating. Thanks for that.
Right now, how much of your energy and time does this take up?
“Honestly, I put a lot of time and energy into this. I had to go get a vanilla job because I put so much energy into this that I burned out and wasn’t making money for months.”
Burnout is a thing.
“Now that I have that second income stream, I’m working on content more part time. But I have a backlog that’s going to let me stay ahead of myself. And I feel a lot more creative and recharged now that I can split my focus.”
That’s an interesting angle. The vanilla support is enabling you to be more selective about what you choose to tackle?
Are you satisfied with your current level of involvement?
“I’d say I am.”
Congratulations are in order, then!
“I think I needed my attention to be split. I was feeling like this was taking over my entire life in ways that weren’t actually healthy.
“But now that I’m leveled out, I’m enjoying talking guys into sucking cock even more. 😉”
Haha! Well…readers: take note of that!
Do you feel comfortable sharing anything else about yourself, on either personal or professional levels? E.g., How old are you? Are you in a relationship? Is it conventional? Alternative? BDSM-related? Whatever you’d like to say!
“I’ll gladly share!
“I just turned 29 on August 26th.”
Hey! Happy birthday to you!
“I’m not in a relationship and probably won’t be any time soon. I just have too much going on to open myself up to yet another line of focus.”
Wow, that’s for sure! Relationships take time.
“I consider myself to be a lesbian. It’s not something I shout across the industry; but it definitely isn’t something I hide if asked about.
“I have two bachelor’s degrees – one in film and one in creative writing.
“I’m an editor for authors outside of this, and I tend to bounce between retail and office work.”
Very cool.
“I love to read. I practically live in concert venues when everything is open …and we’re allowed to go to them!”
Ha! Right?!
“I’m a Wiccan. I’m epileptic.
“And I think the most important thing to note about me is that I’m human and not a fetish machine.”
It’s sometimes all too easy, sitting behind a keyboard, to depersonalize the person at the other end of the internet connexion.
“I have extreme anxiety and I worry way too much about whether submissives are having a good time. I strive to be perfect despite knowing perfection will never be reached. I have high expectations of myself and others.”
There are different kinds of Dominants, to be sure. But, when a Dominant is constructing a scene according to a submissive’s wish list – as is often the case –another correspondent and I have sometimes wondered which person – the submissive or the Dominant – is really “in control” of the session.
It’s an interplay, I suppose. A psychosexual gestalt.
In any event, let me get into a bit more detail with you concerning t the ‘Forced-Bi’ Fetish
On the face of it, the “forced-bi fetish” has two components: (1) “force” and (2) “bisexuality.” Let’s handle both, but in reverse order.
Do you think that true “bisexuality” – where a person is more of less equally attracted to females and males (but see a further question about problems with so-called “binarism”) – is possible?
“Absolutely. While I’m not personally attracted to men, I know plenty of women who find both men and women to be of equal appeal to them.
“I know a few people who married the opposite gender but settled with the same gender later in life after a divorce.
“I very much believe that attraction is a part of human nature, as opposed to a choice. You love who you love. You want to bang who you want to bang.
“In terms of gender – no banging people/things who aren’t consenting, please!”
How does Forced Bi fit into your view, as a fetish? I mean, is it just a bit of fun? Or a lifestyle? Is it a trap?
“I’d say it’s a combination of things.
“Definitely a power trip for me, but also an experience I genuinely want someone to have.
“A lot of submissives come to me and say they can’t do this without encouragement from a woman they trust. But they genuinely want the experience, and they want me to be part of it.
“Some of them want to be humiliated, which I’m more than happy to do.”
Ha! You’re just… trying to be helpful 😛
“Some want actual encouragement – which is great, too. Some just want to talk about doing it instead of actually going out and sucking cock or getting fucked. So, it’s a roleplay in a lot of ways, too.”
Before we get going too far, let me ask: how do you refer to the fetish? “Coerced bi,” “Encouraged gay,” “Forced bi,” etc.?
“I like ‘Coerced’ as opposed to ‘Forced.’ Coerced at least says that, in the end, they consented.
“Whether or not they enjoyed it or did it with enthusiasm is a different story.”
Either way? Lol.
“Overall, however, all of the terms are the same thing and lead back to the same fetish. I’ll adapt to a submissive’s term for it.”
Linguistic flexibility. Right on.
In practice, “forced bi” seems most often to apply to men being somehow impelled to perform sexually (or to imagine performing sexually) with other men. However, in theory, it seems that it could apply to other things – for example, to women being impelled to perform sexually with other women – as well.
Do you see it primarily in terms of male submission, male and female submission, both, or …neither? Haha!
“I think it pertains to whoever is indulging in the fetish and enjoying it for what it is. Male, female, whatever.
“If you’re a female wanting to be coerced into fucking a woman/licking pussy/being licked/fingering – whatever – then it’s just as much for you as it is for the man on his knees in front of a ten inch cock, terrified of choking all over it.”
Well! That’ll get some readers going!
Okay. What about “force” or, as you prefer… coercion?
It doesn’t mean literally being compelled by threats. We’re keeping everything above board and legal, after all! But, what is it, then?
“I think it’s about power and connection. But I also very much see it as being dependent on who I’m partaking in the fetish with.
“Some men want to be ‘threatened’ – great. I don’t take part in blackmail, but I don’t have to in order to threaten you.
“Some just want to be told to do it; some want me to tempt them; and some want me to teach them to suck cock.
“I really do partake in every aspect of this, and I mold myself to what I think the submissive needs in order for us both to succeed.”
Or for him to suck seed, as it were 😉
“If I have to pick one thing that I’m most like, I’d say …encouragement.”
There’s a slightly different flavor – no pun intended, lol! – in terms of the different names for the fetish, right? So, you lean more towards the “encouraged-bi” end of the spectrum but, at the same time, you’re adaptable.
And – by the way – I’m picturing you clad in a Catwoman outfit and saying the word like Anne Hathaway in her portrayal of Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises.
So… what’s happening with “forced bi”? Does a guy change his sexual orientation because of these encounters?
“No. I think it’s a mere curiosity for some men, and they need someone to explore it with.
“Others are gay and just don’t want to explore that with anyone other than a dominant female they can trust.
“Some just want to make me happy, knowing I’m absolutely in love with the fetish and wanting to partake in what I’m interested in.
“I think it’s just a matter of preference.
“Sometimes, it’s just a straight man who considers being with another man humiliating, and he wants to be humiliated in the most extreme way he can be. I don’t really see much in terms of sexual orientation tied to it.”
Is it possible for a guy to be a “switch” or “versatile”? I’m thinking of that as an ability to take on the role of either bottom or top.
“Of course!
“Not all men are only submissive.
“In fact, most men I talk to are switches.”
Oh? You think so?
“They are Dominant in their everyday lives (job, relationships, etc.) and they flip that switch off and turn the other one on when they have their alone time – the submissive switch.”
So… you’re thinking of “switching” in terms of the whole of a person’s life – narrowly sexual and more broadly social. Interesting.
What about just sexually speaking?
“Just because they lean toward being submissive, doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t a switch.
“And some guys that come to me actually like both aspects of it – being Dominant, and being Dominated.”
Yeah?
“I’m very ‘Female-Supremacy’ driven, but I’m also willing and open to accepting every aspect of every human.
“I, however, am not a switch (for men), and I fully expect to be treated as superior at all times.”
Some women profess to enjoy guy-on-guy sex. Straight women sometimes liken their enjoyment to that expressed by straight men who like witnessing two women together sexually. And in the case of two women, it is reasonable to think that participants are not always lesbians or even bisexual. They could just be exhibitionists. Other women might just like viewing gay spectacles. And a few, more dominant types perhaps, seem to find the gender-bending and role-reversal aspects appealing.
You said that you identify as a lesbian. I’m wondering… do any of these resonate with you?
“I’d say it’s more of a spectacle for me without being one of those ‘Oh-my-God-this-is-so-terrible-I-can’t-look-away’ aspects.”
Like a circus rather than a car crash?
“I look at it as a private performance for my own amusement.”
Hm. I gotcha.
“Knowledge that they’re partaking in this because I want them to, because I said so, is what makes it a turn on.”
The power! It’s intoxicating, n’est-ce pas?
A few women claim to want to date bisexual guys, participate in threesomes with them, etc. Others seem to think that once a guy tries guy-on-guy sex, he’s less desirable to women). Your sexual self-identification notwithstanding, any opinion, there?
“Being a lesbian, I can’t speak much on the sexual appeal of a man in my personal experience.”
No, I understand.
“But I do think that bisexual guys can be attractive and desirable. Why shouldn’t they be?
“Now, if we’re speaking from the fetish side of my brain, I would say that they aren’t desirable at all and I enjoy watching them fuck, get fucked, and humiliate themselves more than anything.”
Ha! Right?!
Is the forced-bi fetish “healthy” or “unhealthy”?
“If practiced safely, I’d say it’s very healthy.”
I’m wondering more about psychology than sexual health, though.
“I want my boys to be happy and fulfilled – if that happens to be with cocks up their asses, awesome.”
Fulfilled? Or… filled full? Ha!
“It’s productive; it’s good for exploring limits. And, if they’re practicing with a Domme and other party that cares about their safety, then it’s promoting a positive sexual experience – which I believe everyone deserves to have.”
Do you think of any of this is religious or spiritual terms?
“No. Not for me, at least. Maybe to some submissives.
“But I personally am not religious. My ‘religion’ is Wicca, and I do practice it within BDSM – but in a very different way.”
Nowadays, some people are opposed to the use of so-called “binary language” – e.g., thinking in terms of “feminine” versus “masculine,” etc. – when it comes to John Money’s concept of “gender” and sexuality. But forced bi, arguably, has a kind of “bi-narism” built into its name.
Do you see this as a problem for the “forced-bi” fetish?
“I wouldn’t really say it relates. I only start looking at it in terms of ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’ when sissification/feminization comes into play.
“‘Bi,’ to me, means one gender attracted to both genders. For me, Forced Bi is taking a straight male (or a male who claims to be straight) and pushing him in the direction of indulging in gay activity.
“Does that actually make them gay? No. They’re still attracted to women. And these men can be feminine or masculine all they like. It’s very cut and dry/black and white for me.”
Okay…here’s something a little bit lighter.
What homosexual-related activities do you most enjoy ordering or watching?
I mean… are you partial to cock sucking? Anal sex? Facials? Creampies?
“All of it. I actually haven’t encouraged creampies/internal cumshots yet, but thank you for giving me that idea!”
Oh?! Ha!!
“I find that submissives are more likely to actually perform a bi/gay act if they start slow.
“I always start them out on dildos – deepthroating is usually first, and then we work our way up to them riding a dildo.”
Slow cooking that frog.
“Then riding one dildo while sucking off another.”
Oh, my! Priming the pump for some threesome action!
“From there, if the submissive is comfortable, we start working on getting them a living man to perform these actions with.”
Escalation? Evolution? Devolution? Haha!
“Always be safe when you’re assisting a submissive in finding someone to play with. Keep their safety in mind and be aware that you can get in a lot of trouble if you aren’t taking proper measures to ensure that all parties are going to walk away unharmed!”
Well…maybe one will be limping away, but… I catch your drift.
Thanks for registering that sage advice.
On a different wavelength, do you think that Forced Bi, as a fetish, is getting more popular?
“From my personal experience, I think it’s staying about the same.”
Just wondering.
“I still sell plenty of content when I release it, and I haven’t really noticed an uptick or downtick in sales when it comes to Forced Bi.
“I still get plenty of phone and cam customers who want to indulge, but again, I haven’t noticed more or less.”
You’re gauging it over the years you’ve been dominant? I gotcha.
Picking up on any mentions of Forced Bi from the so-called “mainstream media”?
“Not that I’ve seen. I can’t say one way or another about that because I’m not very well informed about mainstream media. The content I consume isn’t giving me ‘Forced-Bi-promotion’ vibes.”
Fair enough.
Which do you prefer, having guys in dedicated roles, or having both guys being plastic enough to perform in any role you want?
“I prefer men to be open to any role I give them. I wouldn’t really say ‘plastic’ – more like ‘open minded.’”
I see.
“The role a man takes in a bisexual experience is very much dependent on my mood and what I think they can handle, plus whatever hard limits they’ve stated to me before play.”
A complicated stew.
I’m very curious to know… are you aroused by forced bi? Amused by it? Something else?
“I’d definitely say both. I’m aroused by the idea of being able to get a man to perform an act he considers ultimately humiliating. I’m amused that said man is desperate enough for the sexual gratification that he’ll actually follow through.”
Ha! Watch what happens when men are “thinking” with their penises.
Here’s one: Do you think that a guy can “just try” sucking cock or getting assfucked and then quit?
“Of course. A lot of submissive men only like the idea, but would never actually want to do it for real.
“Some like the idea, try it, then vow to never do it again and only stick to the concept (or even leave the fetish altogether).”
Interesting.
“I don’t at all think that someone who just thinks they like to suck cock/get fucked is automatically bi/gay. I’ll tease that idea in play, sure – especially online. But when the act is attempted and disliked, then that’s the decision of the submissive – who is human and able to make his own choices.”
What are you interested in doing?
I mean… do you just find yourself chatting? Or encouraging real interactions?
“Both.
“I like the level of fantasy chat. It’s the easiest to work with when it comes to online play. But when a submissive mentions wanting to try it in real time, or having already talked to someone who is interested in doing it with him, then I start pushing that boundary a bit and encouraging them to have that real-life experience.”
That’s hot!
How “involved” do you like to be? If you encourage in-the-flesh encounters, are you wanting photographic evidence? Is the sub’s word good enough? Or are you making sure that his webcam is operational for the duration?
“Most of the time, I need proof. When I can tell someone says they’re going to do it but really aren’t (because they like the fantasy aspect) then I just issue some orders and let them run with it in their imagination.”
Play to their psychology.
“I’ve had some creative submissives tell me completely fictional stories about getting fucked in the ass and cum all over, and you know what, that’s great. I’m on the other side of a screen/phone – I can’t make you do it.
“But when someone is serious, I need proof – and I like to watch if possible.”
Ha! Nice!
And your biggest turn on is the power?
“It’s largely power – and the knowledge that a man is doing something so extreme for me.”
It can be far out!
“While I believe that most of them would take the step to do it on their own if they didn’t have a woman there to encourage them (no matter what they say), I do think some of them need that push, and to know they partake in the act because of me is arousing as fuck.”
That’s kinky!
So, you’re encouraging a sub to “go do it” for real. What sexual acts, if any, are you pushing? Do you have any special fondness for cocksuckers, for example? Anal bottoms, perhaps? Cumdumps? …Well, I guess you said that you haven’t done that yet. But…anything come to mind?
“All of it. Cocksuckers, anal whores, cumdumps. If it involves a gay act, I adore it.”
Mmmm… yummy!
You already issued a warning and a call for safety. What are your limits? You do have some, I take it?
“I think we all have limits, even if we don’t know what they are.
“My limits mostly apply to myself, and I do try to look out for my subs.”
What specifically?
“For example, if we’re using dating apps, I don’t approve someone for a sub to go see until I see STD[1]-test results (with the name covered at the discretion of the other party).”
What about “barebacking”? Condom-less sex.
“This is very dependent on the submissive’s comfort level. I don’t care either way, as long as everyone is being safe and is clean.”
It’s the only way to get those creampies!
But as concerns STDs… you promote safe sex in a thoroughgoing way?
“Pretty much as stated above, I’m very conscious about it. But I also rely on the submissive to pay attention and take care of himself as well. I really don’t want to be in control to the point of having to babysit the testing process, but I also don’t want to be the one who ordered a scene that ended in an STD.”
Fair enough.
What about married men? Any opinions?
“I really don’t care. Most of my clients are married anyway. I don’t often get single men.”
Ha!
I hear that frequently.
How do you feel about amyl-nitrite inhalers (“poppers”)?
“I don’t have enough experience with them and can’t seem to find a submissive who is willing to sit and teach me about them. I can do my own research, sure, but I’ve had one actual poppers session and I think it’s pretty boring for me to sit there and be like ‘Okay, sniff.’”
Lol.
I can see that.
How do you feel about guys really getting addicted to gay sex?
“As long as they’re being safe and not letting it mess up their everyday lives, that’s their own problem.”
Ooh. Okay.
Thanks for persisting through this with us, by the way!
Just a few final questions…
Do you have any other fetishes or activities that you like to participate in, direct, or instruct?
“Chastity is my main fetish along with Coerced Bi.”
Right on. You specialize! I’m glad we connected!
“I’m fond of different taboo fetishes.”
Oh?
“I’m the one all of you are bitching about when you say ‘stop promoting XYZ’) and I enjoy Financial Domination.
“Cuckolding and Foot Fetish are also pretty big ones for me.”
So, tell us: How can fans and readers find you and get a hold of you?
“I’d love for everyone to come see me on Twitter (@YesMissCabrel).
“I also have an AVN Stars that I use as my membership site, where you can view all of my content and some exclusive content, plus be able to chat with me whenever you want. https://www.stars.avn.com/yesmisscabrel
“My preferred clip sites are Clips4Sale: https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/133179/miss-cameron-cabrel
“and IWC: https://iwantclips.com/store/512339/Miss-Cameron-Cabrel
“And I’m on Streamate: https://miss_cameroncabrel.cammodels.com
“and NiteFlirt: https://www.niteflirt.com/Miss%20Cameron”
Really, really a pleasure, Miss Cameron!
Thank you so much for your time!
(All images of Miss Cameron Cabrel used by Forced-Bi.com are Copyright 2020, Miss Cameron Cabrel. They are reproduced with permission.)
Note:
[1] “STD” = “sexually transmitted disease” – also sometimes referred to as an “STI” (“sexually transmitted infection”)